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Hello all,
It’s been awhile since I was on here and I hope everyone is doing well.

The old 110 refused to start the other day, and I was able to determine the starter generator is the problem.

Does anyone know where I could get an original rebuilt one? The one currently on the tractor doesn’t have any tags.
Thanks for any help!!
 

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Hello all,
It’s been awhile since I was on here and I hope everyone is doing well.

The old 110 refused to start the other day, and I was able to determine the starter generator is the problem.

Does anyone know where I could get an original rebuilt one? The one currently on the tractor doesn’t have any tags.
Thanks for any help!!
There are rebuilt generators and used ones on Ebay. John Deere 110s used Delco Remy starter generators as did many other garden tractors. I recently rebuilt the one for my '66 110. They're easy to rebuild yourself if you choose to and many rebuild videos on YouTube. I got a good rebuild kit from seller plbautoelectricsupply on Ebay for $16.50 that had 2 ball bearings, new brushes and springs and retaining o-ring. My armature was ok, only needed clean up and polishing of the copper commutator section. If the copper has significant grooves it'll need to be turned in a lathe by a shop to clean up. I've seen new armatures also on Ebay for about $60. Field coil kits also are available if needed. Search 'delco generator rebuild kits' on Ebay and lots of kits show up. You may only need the $16.50 kit like I did. It's an easy dis assembly, remove the drive pulley nut and pulley, 2 through bolts and it usually comes easily apart. I'm sure there must be rebuild shops in your area if you need to find one. My generator had a sticker of a rebuild shop in Michigan. I can pass the info to you if you'd like but unfortunately I don't know anything about their rebuilds. Take a look at the rebuild videos on You Tube to see how rebuilds are done when you have a chance. If you need the model number of the Delco Remy unit mine has just let me know.
 

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Like HD-JD110Fan said, they are easy to rebuild. I just did mine a few weeks ago with the kit off of eBay, it only needed the bearings, brushes and springs.
If you don’t want to tackle the rebuild, try calling some local auto shops, they could probably get you headed in the right direction. They are Delco Remy starters, as stated above.
 

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There are rebuilt generators and used ones on Ebay. John Deere 110s used Delco Remy starter generators as did many other garden tractors. I recently rebuilt the one for my '66 110. They're easy to rebuild yourself if you choose to and many rebuild videos on YouTube. I got a good rebuild kit from seller plbautoelectricsupply on Ebay for $16.50 that had 2 ball bearings, new brushes and springs and retaining o-ring. My armature was ok, only needed clean up and polishing of the copper commutator section. If the copper has significant grooves it'll need to be turned in a lathe by a shop to clean up. I've seen new armatures also on Ebay for about $60. Field coil kits also are available if needed. Search 'delco generator rebuild kits' on Ebay and lots of kits show up. You may only need the $16.50 kit like I did. It's an easy dis assembly, remove the drive pulley nut and pulley, 2 through bolts and it usually comes easily apart. I'm sure there must be rebuild shops in your area if you need to find one. My generator had a sticker of a rebuild shop in Michigan. I can pass the info to you if you'd like but unfortunately I don't know anything about their rebuilds. Take a look at the rebuild videos on You Tube to see how rebuilds are done when you have a chance. If you need the model number of the Delco Remy unit mine has just let me know.
Thanks for the info! I think I’ll buy one off eBay and rebuild it myself. If it isn’t too much trouble could I have that model number?
 

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Tsb3's suggestion of the video by ivsavetractors is also a very good reference as he's pointing out. That parts supplier has a great series on a lot of garden tractor repairs, adjustments, and restoration. Also,if you're not familiar with Brian Miller's site gardentractorpullingtips.com be sure to take a look at his extensive series of photos, info, and parts offerings as well. He has an incredible wealth of information on Kohler engines, the best I've ever seen.


Here's a photo of the Delco Remy starter/generator tag I stamped and riveted to the one I rebuilt. The model and serial numbers are exactly what was on the original tag. The tag in this photo was purchased as a blank reproduction tag that I got on Ebay to replace the original tag that was in rough shape and needing replacement.

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The Delco Remy starter/generator I rebuilt is the first one I've ever rebuilt so I don't claim by any means to be an expert on these units. I've seen this same model number on several Delco Remy starter/generators that I saw for sale over the past 3 years on Ebay that were listed as starter/generators for John Deere 110 round fenders. Hopefully some of our other members can give more of a break down on the serial number and more insight on whether the first 3 digits actually refer to a John Deere 110 or not. I'm also not absolutely certain that the last four digits, 1970 are reference to the year or not. Since my unit had a sticker of a starter and generator rebuilding shop in Michigan, I also not able to verify if it was the original starter/generator from my 1966 110 but it's been performing fine for me after installation of the rebuild kit bought on Ebay. This type of unit is very common on several brands of garden tractors besides John Deere's such as Cub Cadet, Case, and quite a few others.
 

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Tsb3's suggestion of the video by ivsavetractors is also a very good reference as he's pointing out. That parts supplier has a great series on a lot of garden tractor repairs, adjustments, and restoration. Also,if you're not familiar with Brian Miller's site gardentractorpullingtips.com be sure to take a look at his extensive series of photos, info, and parts offerings as well. He has an incredible wealth of information on Kohler engines, the best I've ever seen.


Here's a photo of the Delco Remy starter/generator tag I stamped and riveted to the one I rebuilt. The model and serial numbers are exactly what was on the original tag. The tag in this photo was purchased as a blank reproduction tag that I got on Ebay to replace the original tag that was in rough shape and needing replacement.

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The Delco Remy starter/generator I rebuilt is the first one I've ever rebuilt so I don't claim by any means to be an expert on these units. I've seen this same model number on several Delco Remy starter/generators that I saw for sale over the past 3 years on Ebay that were listed as starter/generators for John Deere 110 round fenders. Hopefully some of our other members can give more of a break down on the serial number and more insight on whether the first 3 digits actually refer to a John Deere 110 or not. I'm also not absolutely certain that the last four digits, 1970 are reference to the year or not. Since my unit had a sticker of a starter and generator rebuilding shop in Michigan, I also not able to verify if it was the original starter/generator from my 1966 110 but it's been performing fine for me after installation of the rebuild kit bought on Ebay. This type of unit is very common on several brands of garden tractors besides John Deere's such as Cub Cadet, Case, and quite a few others.
Wow! That tag and paint job look nice! How do you install that type of rivet?
Thanks for all of the help and links tsb and HD It is appreciated!

Also, I was just thinking, isn’t cool that back in the day a company would take the time to stamp that little plate on there are rivet it with nice rivets? Nowadays you get stickers.
 

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Thanks Brian for the compliments on the starter/generator I.D. tag. These reproduction tags are available on Ebay from several sellers for about $10 to $15 and come finish painted like this one but not stamped. These tags are made from thin aluminum sheet metal and most are made today on a lasor etching machine. Back in the day when most of these original tags were made, they were chemically etched which produced letters and numbers that ended up about .003 to.004 above the surface of the aluminum. The lasor etched tags produced today can be done with incredible detail and like you said, it's nice to have a metal tag instead of just a sticker. Stamping the tag is done with letter and number stamps by hand. It's best to practice on a scrap piece of sheet metal before attempting to stamp the tag. I was able to stamp my tag with a special set up in my milling machine which made it easy to produce the accurately spaced and well aligned letters and numbers.

The rivets these are installed with are actually what are called drive screws. They have a domed head and spiral grooves on their stems. The ones for the generator tag are #4 size drive screws that have a stem 3/16" long. I drilled several test holes in a piece of steel and a number series drill, a #39 drill that measures .0995 diameter produced a hole that was a very good fit for the #4 drive screw. The original drive screws on the generator tags were in very tight and I had to carefully center drill them on center and drill them out. This can be done with a hand drill but since I have a milling machine, I was able to center them very accurately in a mill vise to remove the original drive screws in the original drive screw locations. When drilling holes for the tag you need to use the tag for locating the hole spacing. If the original hole locations end up drilled out too large you can simply drill new hole locations. The drive screws can be driven in with a flat tipped punch. If you prefer to preserve the dome shape of the head of the drive screw you need to get a properly sized riveting punch with a concave pocketed end that fits the drive screw domed head but this isn't absolutely necessary. .

I'll be posting photos soon of the generator I restored and will add them to my thread I've posted titled, 'updates from member hd-jd110fan, '66 110 on rotisserie stand.'
 
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